hard options are and where to make the cuts so we can sustain our economy and channel some growth instead of going the opposite direction. >> well, i think it's just like any other budget that's out of whack. you first start where is the biggest potential area of savings? i would look at health care, i would look at the fact that in america, we spend one out of every $6 on health care. i think the government, you know, and this is not just me, you know, the congressional budget office, cbo-- >> when you're talking about health care, you're talking about medicaid, medicare, what other-- >> i'm talking about, a lot of the aspects, i think, that not only medicare and medicaid, i'm talking about looking at obamacare, i'm talking about looking at potential tort reform that might take some of the high lawsuits out of the equation. >> take the sting out of malpractice. >> yes, with still protecting people. i think the pharmaceutical companies, i mean, you know, my daughter went to the hospital and she was there for 40 minutes to see if she had a kidney stone and of course, it cost $4800.